I switched to Vorbis a while ago. Im still using DivX5 and I have run into no trouble with the tools that are out for OGM. I love the fact that now there are no more problems with the stupid AVI container. I like being able to fastforward and not have to wait 5 secs for the audio and video to catch up. I also think that it's the best container for doing dual audio rips, even up to 3 audio tracks. And now with the new Tobais Filter we can have AC3 files in the OGM's. So while AVI with MP3 may be the standard, OGM clearly beats it out. I know the thread was originally about Vorbis, but there is no other way to hear the stream with the video.