any v4 themes like this?

Like... has more focus and concern for the TCP than the MCP?

The TCP is far more time consuming and less accepting of flexible design than the MCP, because whatever you do has to work at tiny width/height and expand accordingly. Conversely, its dead easy to churn out lots of MCP layouts. So in answer to your question: Yes. Every single one of them.

What exactly do you not like about the tcps?

Here are some TCP improvement ideas. 1. More useful vertical TCP layouts - Vertical meters/fader with horizontal track name and input selector. - Use the free vertical space wisely. For example if horizontal space is limited and vertical space is large, then all horizontal space should be given to track name. Mute, solo and other buttons should be below the track name. 2. MIDI track TCP layouts with new MIDI specific elements - Instrument plugin and/or MIDI output (more important than input) - MIDI Channel - Bank & Patch - no phase button needed 3. Layout options inside the application (no separate Walter layouts needed) - Show/hide individual elements (buttons etc.) or element groups - Vertical alignment (top/center/bottom) - New optional element for track comments - Enable/disable automatic element rearranging when TCP/MCP is resized horizontally - Enable/disable automatic element rearranging when TCP/MCP is resized vertically - Enable/disable element stretching when TCP/MCP is resized (especially meters and faders) - Optionally lock TCP element groups to columns. This means that element rearranging and stretching is allowed only within a column i.e. elements are not allowed to jump from one column to another. This could make TCP layouts visually more consistent and finding elements would be easier. 4. Quick access to TCP layout menu. For example right click on right edge of TCP. 5. Use track color and indentation in envelope lanes to indicate parent track more clearly. 6. More buttons and status indicators. For example track timebase and freeze. Ultimately allow any action to be included in a custom multi-state button in TCP/MCP.

Custom action buttons available to WALTER and much more of the entire app WALTERable That is pretty much the solution to everything Beyond that it is dive in and learn WALTER or use what others post REAPER so badly needs its entire UI WALTERable so we can do some uber slick things ;)

i see the most potential in the vertical style layout from the default theme. it makes SO much room for everything you could want on the tcp, and you don't even need a huge track height to use it. I also feel that there's a lack of tcp layouts in the default theme, some of them are pretty much the same just organized a bit different, which is kind of useless.

I too would like to see all controls available in a smaller TCP. It seems Apollo in V3 3 did that nicely. I would like to use only the TPC, or at least try it. I came from a hardware mixer, then to PARIS, which couldn't be more like a hardware mixer. I was originally attracted to Reaper for the MPC but seem to be moving away from that, especially on higher track counts. Its just easier to navigate from waveforms to controls in the TCP... for me. Phase button? I don't see how anyone who records live music could do without it, and if one says "record it right to begin with" I would respond "in phase isn't always the desired effect in a mix". Well Apollo V4 is coming, maybe that will clear things up for me. As always, no matter what my personal preferences are, the effort put forward by everyone here is greatly appreciated. Roscoe

Here is an example of TCP layout with more controls and vertical meter in small track height. Here is the WALTER code added to default theme. Code:

Two things I forgot to mention about my "Vertical meters" TCP layout. In rtconfig.txt I changed mcp_vupeakheight to 1. This is needed to display small height meters accurately. I also changed the default background image for TCP meter (meter_bg_tcp.png). The default one has too large borders for small sized meters. I copied the meter background from WT_Brawn_Bespoke theme and changed the color gradient to be a bit lighter. jnif

Pretty cool stuff Jnif! Thanks. I hope this gets added to the default theme in the next update.