O ok, I shall try tweak. Does xvid actually make the video color a little off, or is that because of my avisynth script. I was also wondering, a little off topic, where can I find documentation of warpsharp. I've searched and all I've found is a thread of a example of Warpsharp(30), not too sure what that does or if that's a high value or not. Also for unfilter with xvid, I read that with the mpeg2dec3 and lumafilter=-2, black blocks would look less ugly, can something like this also work for edge noise, or noise introduced by mpeg quants?